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- Date: Fri, 26 Jan 90 14:28:11 EST
- From: Christine M Gianone <cmg@watsun.cc.columbia.edu>
- To: Info-Kermit
- Subject: Info-Kermit Digest V11 #4
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- Info-Kermit Digest Fri, 26 Jan 1990 Volume 11 : Number 4
-
- Today's Topics:
- PRIME Kermit Version 8.00 For PRIMOS R21 and R22
- Announcing Microsoft Windows Kermit 4.11
- MS-DOS Kermit 3.0 News
- "WKERMIT" Moved
- Additions to REMOTE SET Proposal
- Kermit Required in Government Contracts?
-
- Digest submissions may be sent to Info-Kermit@WATSUN.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU,
- requests for addition to or deletion from the Info-Kermit subscriber list to
- Info-Kermit-Request@WATSUN.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU or to KERMIT@CUVMA.BITNET.
-
- Kermit files may be obtained over networks and by mail order. On the
- Internetwork, use FTP to log in to host WATSUN.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU, a SUN-4/280
- running UNIX (SUNOS 4.0), IP host number 128.59.39.2. Login as user
- anonymous (note, lower case), any password, and GET or MGET (MULTIPLE GET)
- the desired files. The Kermit files are in directories kermit/a, kermit/b,
- kermit/c, kermit/d, and kermit/e. Test versions are in kermit/test. You
- can also get Kermit files over the BITNET/EARN network; to get started send
- a message with text HELP to KERMSRV, the Kermit file server, at host CUVMA.
- For detailed instructions, read the file kermit/a/aanetw.hlp (AANETW.HLP on
- KERMSRV). To order by mail, request a complete list of Kermit versions and
- an order form from Kermit Distribution, Columbia University Center for
- Computing Activities, 612 West 115th Street, New York, NY 10025 USA.
-
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 17 Jan 90 12:51:45 WET DST
- From: John Horne <C20211@UK.AC.PSW.PA>
- Via: Steve Jenkins, The National PD Software Archive, Lancaster University, UK
- <pdsoft%pd-software.lancaster.ac.uk@NSFnet-Relay.AC.UK>
- Subject: PRIME Kermit Version 8.00 For PRIMOS R21 and R22
- Keywords: PRIME Kermit, Sliding Windows
-
- This is to announce a new release of PRIME Kermit, version 8.00, that replaces
- version 7.57 of May 1986, which was contributed by The Source Telecomputing,
- Alexandria, VA, recently gone out of business.
-
- Initially I was asked to investigate some problems our users were having with
- large files. However, the code seemed to be getting a bit old and messy. So
- it seemed somewhat easier to look at all of the code. This version should
- work exactly as the old version, but there is more functionality in it and the
- use of packets should be more efficient. The error handling has been much
- improved, and I think that this will cure most problems that users used to
- have. All the previous known bugs have been sorted out in the code. Where
- possible version 6 of the Kermit Protocol Manual has been followed. The new
- version has been tested at PRIMOS revisions 21.0.5q and 22.0.1a. Here is a
- brief summary of the changes:
-
- - Support for 8-bit no-parity file transfers.
- - Better error handling and messages.
- - Full support for pathnames within commands.
- - Improved logging.
- - More command line options available (use -HELP to show them).
- - SET INCOMPLETE command.
- - Pound sign conversion option (US/UK).
- - CONVERT command to convert files to PRIME format.
- - Support for file size and date attributes, user settable.
- - Support for nested TAKE files.
- - Local file management commands added including SPACE, RENAME, COPY, PUSH.
- - Better use of timeouts.
- - Filename collision detection and avoidance, user settable.
- - Many internal cleanups.
-
- John Horne
- Polytechnic South West
- Plymouth, Devon, UK
-
- [Ed. - Many thanks to John for this new version, and to Steve for sending it
- to us! The new files are installed in the Kermit Distribution D area as
- PRIME8.*. PRIME8.UPD includes a detailed list of changes since version 7.57.
- PRIME8.SRC includes the build procedure, four insert files, and 39 source
- files written in PLP, PRIME's version of PL/1. Within PRIME8.SRC, each of
- these files is separated by a line of -----'s and can be separated using a
- text editor. Warning, PRIME.SRC contains some rather long lines (some of them
- up to 144 characters in length), which will no doubt cause problems for BITNET
- transfers. We are trying to find out if there is a way to legally break these
- long lines. Meanwhile, the old PRIME Kermit files for version 7.57 will
- remain available in the D area as PRIME.*. It is not known whether Version 8
- will run under older versions of PRIMOS, such as R19, which 7.57 was written
- for. Please let us know whether we can retire the old version.
-
- By the way, PRIME Kermit supports sliding window packet protocol, and so PRIME
- users are particularly encouraged to test it against MS-DOS Kermit 3.0 with
- window sizes greater than 1. Reports welcome!]
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 22 Jan 90 18:15:26 EST
- From: Christine M Gianone <cmg@watsun.cc.columbia.edu>
- Subject: Announcing Microsoft Windows Kermit 4.11
- Keywords: Microsoft Windows Kermit
- X-Ref: MS-Windows, See Microsoft Windows
-
- >From Bill Hall of Santa Clara, CA, comes version 4.11 of Microsoft Windows
- Kermit (WINKER). This program works on any PC that has Microsoft Windows 2.0
- or greater. It performs Heath-19 terminal emulation, does Kermit file
- transfer, and two copies of it can be going at once, one on each COM port.
-
- Version 4.11 is a minor update to the previous release, 4.10 of September
- 1989. The major change is the inclusion of a comm driver (with Microsoft's
- permission) that fixes an Xon/Xoff bug in the standard driver that is
- distributed with Windows 2.10 and 2.11. The source (Microsoft C 5.1) and .BOO
- files are in the "A" area of Kermit distribution as win*.*. Binaries (for
- those who have access to binary FTP) are in kermit/bin/win*.*. The .BOO files
- may be "un-Boo'd" using the MSBPCT utilities, also found in the Kermit
- distribution "A" area.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 22 Jan 90 17:14:35 EST
- From: Christine M Gianone <cmg@watsun.cc.columbia.edu>
- Subject: MS-DOS Kermit 3.0 News
- Keywords: MS-DOS Kermit 3.0 Graphics, MS-DOS Kermit 3.0 Network Support
-
- EARLY REVIEWS
-
- "I LIKE IT!!! ... Thanks for great program."
- - Kevin Lowey, University of Saskatchewan
-
- "I *LOVE* Kermit! It is wonderful to have a free communication package that I
- can distribute to users just getting started dailing in to our VAX 8800 and/or
- online library catalog."
- - Prof. Joe St Sauver, University of Oregon
-
- "I'm very impressed with the new features, and am anxious to see the sliding
- windows suport added to the [other] versions. Kudos to JRD, and everyone
- involved in the new release."
- - Mark Zinzow, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
-
- "I just received MS-DOS Kermit 3.00, and I must say that what I saw of it is
- very nice ... the much faster scrolling ... Good for me, who scrolls a lot."
- - Matthias Niemeyer, Org. Chem. Inst., Goettingen, West Germany
-
- "MS-DOS Kermit is the only PC communication program that works 100 percent
- with speech devices and software used by the blind."
- - Rick Hayner, Portland, MI
-
- "This version is AMAZING!!!! ... Until today, I didn't realize how powerful
- the DECnet interface is... I have modem servers around the network and I
- never thought that a PC could Kermit over one of those modems - but SET PORT
- DECNET does the trick. Nice job!!!!"
- - Chris Lent and Robert Weiner, Cooper Union, NYC
-
- BUGS AND PROBLEMS
-
- But of course most messages of praise also included questions, suggestions,
- or bug reports. These are being added to MSKERM.BWR as they come in, and a
- future message will give news about fixes for some of them. Meanwhile, keep
- the reports (good and bad) coming in!
-
- One problem -- the one in which the program hangs AT&T 6300s running MS-DOS
- 3.10 -- is fixable by a DEBUG patch. See the new file MSVIBM.DBG. This file
- will be used to record DEBUG procedures that can be used to fix bugs in or
- otherwise change the IBM version of 3.00.
-
- The MSZIBM.ASM file contained one line in which a comment extended beyond
- column 80, preventing BITNET users from getting it via BITNET mail. This
- has been fixed. Thanks to Franz Maier at the University of Salzburg, Austria,
- for pointing out the problem.
-
- NETWORKS DEPARTMENT
-
- Kermit includes high-level interfaces for a variety of local area network
- protocols (Netbios, DECnet, NASI/NACS, etc), but it does not include device
- drivers for specific network boards and it does not execute the TCP/IP or
- Telnet protocols. Kermit is Kermit and can't really afford (in terms of
- space and complexity) to do this.
-
- What is needed here is a public-domain (or copyright but free, like Kermit)
- program which executes Telnet (like NCSA) over TCP/IP, allows drivers for
- various Ethernet boards to be plugged in, and can be run as a TSR interceptor
- for Bios Int 14H, the communication port interrupt. Such a program would
- work through Kermit's SET PORT BIOS1 command. Several such programs already
- exist, but they are commercial products. There is some possibility that a
- future release of NCSA Telnet itself will provide the desired Bios hook.
-
- We'd like to start collecting information about how to set up MS-DOS Kermit
- 3.0 to work with various kinds of PC LANs (or vice versa!), similar to the
- information in MSKERM.HLP about Novell networks. If you have hints about
- setting up and using 3.0 with DECnet-DOS, 3COM, Netbios, Starlan, etc, please
- send them in and we'll start collecting them into a file called MSVIBM.NET
- (no such file yet). Particulars about which programs and versions are used,
- how to run them and in what order and with what options, etc, would be very
- useful.
-
- NEW GRAPHICS DOCUMENTATION
-
- A file listing all of MS-DOS Kermit 3.0's graphics escape sequences is now
- available as kermit/a/msvibm.tek on watsun.cc.columbia.edu for Internet FTP
- access, and as MSVIBM.TEK on CUVMA for BITNET access via KERMSRV. As readers
- will note, there are many strange and powerful new capabilities here that
- graphics-oriented applications can take advantage of, once educated to them.
-
- Kermit does not emulate one particular kind of graphics terminal, but rather
- combines the features of the Tektronix 4010 and 4014 monochrome graphics
- terminals with selected features of the HDS 2000/3000 and DEC VT340 terminals,
- including color control, sixel graphics, line and area patterns, rectangle
- fill, and more.
-
- So far, very few host programs know how to take full advantage of this mix of
- capabilities. In fact, the only one we know of is host-resident WordPerfect
- version 4.2 or 5.0. SAS Institute has been furnished with the new Kermit
- graphics specifications, and they will consider adding support to SAS/Graph in
- a new release -- thanks to all of you who called them about this, but please
- don't call them any more, they got the message!
-
- Experimentation is needed. Try telling your graphics application that you
- have a Tek 4010, a Tek 4014, an HDS 2000, an HDS 3000, and a VT340, and
- compare the results. Let us know which terminal type produces the best
- results for which application (SAS/Graph, SPSS, S, DISSPLA/TELL-A-GRAPH, etc).
- Note once again that VT340 will usually mean REGIS graphics to the
- host, but Kermit does not support VT340 REGIS graphics, only sixel.
-
- Better still, if your graphics application allows it, use the information in
- MSVIBM.TEK to build a new driver, say "MSKERMIT300" (or encourage your
- package vendor -- except SAS -- to do so), so that maximum advantage can be
- taken of Kermit's new features. If you succeed in doing this for a
- particular package, please send us the information and we'll add it to the
- MSVIBM.TEK file.
-
- A second new file is also available: MSGTIF.DOC. This is the Aldus/Microsoft
- memo describing TIFF 5.0, the format used by MS-DOS Kermit 3.0 when dumping
- graphics images to disk. Note: MS-DOS Kermit cannot read TIFF files, it can
- only write them. To our knowledge, Kermit's TIFF format is supposed to be
- compatible with WordPerfect 5.0, Pagemaker, Ventura Publisher, PC Paint, Gem
- Paint, and Publishers Paintbrush. Users of these packages are encouraged to
- send reports, hints, etc, and we'd also like to hear about any other uses for,
- or packages that go with, Kermit's TIFF files.
-
- Packages that definitely do not import Kermit's TIFF files include Microsoft
- Windows Paint 2.03 (even though TIFF is partially a Microsoft invention) and
- the MIT X graphics conversion utilities PGM, PBM, etc (these only have support
- for an earlier version of TIFF).
-
- PROGRESS ON VERSION 3.0 FOR NON-IBM SYSTEMS
-
- We have received an offer from John Nyenhuis at Purdue University to port
- MS-DOS Kermit 3.0 to the GRiD Compass, HP Portable Plus, HP 110, and HP 150.
- If you are interested in helping out with any of these systems, please get in
- touch with John:
-
- John Nyenhuis Purdue University School of Electrical Engineering
- West Lafayette IN 47907 (317)494-3524 nyenhuis@ee.ecn.purdue.edu
-
- We also have some possible help with the DEC Rainbow and H/Z-100. If you are
- willing to (help) port 3.0 to any of the other computers supported by previous
- MS-DOS Kermit releases (Sanyo, Victor, NEC, etc), please let us know!
-
- UNIX TERMCAP NEEDED FOR MS-DOS KERMIT 3.0
-
- In response to the many requests we've had for a UNIX termcap for Kermit's
- VT-320 emulation, we can only say that most of the features that distinguish
- the VT-320 from the VT-102 have to do with its 8-bit character set
- capabilities, and most UNIX systems do not normally support 8-bit terminal
- i/o, 8-bit control characters, or international character sets. This has
- started to change. We also understand that release 19 of GNU EMACS will
- support 8-bit character sets. Anybody with VT320 termcaps, please send them
- in! Meanwhile, remember that the VT320 is compatible with the VT102 and
- VT100, so you can still tell your UNIX host that you are using one of these,
- even if MS-DOS Kermit's terminal type is set to VT320 (provided UNIX doesn't
- inquire the terminal type via ESC Z).
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 22 Jan 90 12:51:00 EST
- From: Christine M Gianone <cmg@watsun.cc.columbia.edu>
- Subject: "WKERMIT" Moved
- Keywords: Sliding Windows, WKERMIT
-
- Speaking of Windows, PRIME, and The Source... the old, original sliding
- windows Kermit -- an adaptation of C-Kermit for the PC that was done in 1986,
- commissioned by The Source Telecomputing to be used with their PRIME Kermit
- implementation -- has been retired from the Kermit "A" area (popular versions)
- to the "C" area (obscure versions), now that MS-DOS Kermit 3.0 supports
- sliding windows and attribute packets, and that C-Kermit 5A (with sliding
- windows) is on the way.
-
- kermit/a/wkermit.* --> kermit/c/wkermit.*.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 22 Jan 90 12:51:21 EST
- From: Christine M Gianone <cmg@watsun.cc.columbia.edu>
- Subject: Additions to REMOTE SET Proposal
- Keywords: Kermit Protocol, REMOTE SET Command
-
- REMOTE SET FILE BLOCKSIZE 311 number
- REMOTE SET FILE RECORD-LENGTH 312 number
- REMOTE SET FILE RECORD-FORMAT 313 F (fixed), V (variable), etc...
-
- This is just for the record, to assign these numbers to these commands
- for somebody who needed them. Details to be filled in later.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 25 Jan 90 17:42:25 EST
- From: Christine M Gianone <cmg@watsun.cc.columbia.edu>
- Subject: Kermit Required in Government Contracts?
-
- We have heard many reports that certain requests for proposals or bids from
- the US government for computer-related equipment include a requirement that
- the Kermit protocol be supported. We'd like to hear about any RFPs or
- contracts, past or present, that called for Kermit. Knowing about such things
- helps us to convince those who need convincing that Kermit is not just a toy
- used by hobbyists.
-
- Still looking for other interesting stories about Kermit for Kermit News!
-
- ------------------------------
-
- End of Info-Kermit Digest
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